In our final episode on grief, we continue our conversation with Professor George A. Bonnano and learn about the differences between grief and depression. We hear from John W. Evans, author of the award-winning memoir, Young Widower, about the complicated grief he experienced after losing his wife to a bear attack in 2007. Catherine and Rebecca chat about ways to be supportive of grieving friends and loved ones, and we end with a story from journalist Carmel Delshad about the ways grief changed her for the better.

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Professor George A. Bonanno

George A. Bonanno, Ph.D. is a Professor of Clinical Psychology at Teachers College Columbia University. His research and scholarly interests have centered on the question of how human beings cope with loss, trauma and other forms of extreme adversity, with an emphasis on resilience and the salutary role of flexible coping and emotion regulatory processes. Professor Bonanno’s recent work has focused on defining and documenting adult resilience in the face of loss or potential traumatic events, and on identifying the range of psychological and contextual variables that predict both psychopathological and resilient outcomes. He is the author of The Other Side of Sadness: What the New Science of Bereavement Tells us about Life After Loss.


John W. Evans

John W. Evans is the author of three books: Should I Still Wish: A Memoir,Young Widower: A Memoir, and The Consolations: Poems). His books have won prizes including the Peace Corps Writers Book Prize, two ForeWord Reviews Book Prizes (2014, 2017–current finalist), the River Teeth Book Prize, and the Trio Award. Should I Still Wish was selected by Poets and Writers magazine as a “new and noteworthy” title of January/February 2017, and is published in the American Lives Series. John is currently the Draper Lecturer of Creative Nonfiction at Stanford University, where he was previously a Jones Lecturer and a Wallace Stegner Fellow. He lives in Northern California with his wife and three young sons. He recently finished his first novel, Spring Past

Carmel Delshad

Carmel Delshad is a multimedia journalist based in Washington, D.C., currently working as an editor and reporter at WAMU 88.5. She previously worked at AJ+, and in post-revolution Cairo, Egypt, as a freelancer and media trainer and in Orlando, Fla. as a general assignment reporter with a local NPR affiliate. She is passionate about radio, new media, engagement, social media, writing, and, first and foremost, telling stories and doing solid, good journalism. She wrote this reflection after her father's death in 2015.